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Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostWed Mar 06, 2013 4:54 am

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/holder-yep-obama-could-kill-americans-u-soil-213059085--politics.html


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President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force—such as drone strikes—against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter released Tuesday.

But Holder, writing to Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, underlined that Obama “has no intention” of targeting his fellow citizens with unmanned aerial vehicles and would do so only if facing “an extraordinary circumstance.”
Paul had asked the Obama administration on Feb. 20 whether the president "has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil and without trial." On Tuesday, he denounced Holder's response as “frightening” and “an affront to the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans.”

“The U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so,” Holder assured Paul in the March 4, 2013 letter. The attorney general also underlined that “we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.”
Holder added: “The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President will ever have to confront."

But "it is possible, I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder said. "For example, the President could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack” like Pearl Harbor or 9/11.

“Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of this authority,” said Holder.

Paul, whose office released the letter, denounced the attorney general’s comments.

"The U.S. Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening—it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans," the senator said in a statement.
The exchange came as the White House agreed to give Senate Intelligence Committee members access to all of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel opinions justifying Obama's expanded campaign of targeted assassination of suspected terrorists overseas, including American citizens. Some lawmakers had warned they would try to block top Obama counterterrorism adviser John Brennan's nomination to head the CIA unless they were able to see the memos.

A few hours after the White House agreed to share the information, the committee approved Brennan 12-3, setting the stage for a full Senate vote.

Obama's drone war—relatively popular at home, reviled across the Muslim world—has drawn fresh scrutiny ever since NBC News obtained and published a Justice Department memo that lays out the legal justification behind it. The White House has defended the policy as “necessary,” “ethical” and “wise.” But civil liberties champions have sharply criticized it.


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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostWed Mar 06, 2013 4:47 pm

First we're conspiracy theorists for declaring this is going to happen and when they announce it it's all cool and we were still wrong? WTH is wrong with these people?! Traitor scum...

Man I...

I need to take a walk... I'm pissed off right now...

Thank you for sharing... It only proves we've been right, and all these idiots that said this wouldn't happen were just that idiot. I wonder what they will say when theys tart rounding people up and executioning them Nazi style on Fema camps...

I won't go for that... I will defend and rescue my fellow citizens from...........

I'm going to take a walk.

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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostWed Mar 06, 2013 9:50 pm

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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostThu Mar 07, 2013 8:20 pm

Wasn't that always a possibility since the mid 80s laws on martial law?

Meaning that if they declare martial war, they could have done that in the past years.

Those fucking robots, no you know the link between hollywood and the agenda. Alll those nice and wonder ful robots. Fuck you johnny 5.
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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostThu Mar 07, 2013 10:05 pm

Momentary freedom, at least for the win... Well done Rand Paul... Well fkin done:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/07/historic-filibuster-renews-bipartisan-focus-on-drones-regulation/
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Sen. Rand Paul declared victory Thursday after Attorney General Eric Holder assured him that the president cannot use a drone to kill a noncombatant American on U.S. soil -- an assurance Paul had sought during his 13-hour filibuster the day before.

"Hooray!" Paul responded when the letter was read to him for the first time during an interview with Fox News. "For 13 hours yesterday, we asked him that question, so there is a result and a victory. Under duress and under public humiliation, the White House will respond and do the right thing."

During his dramatic filibuster, which delayed a vote on CIA director nominee John Brennan, Paul had demanded the administration clarify the government's authority to kill on U.S. soil. The filibuster ended past midnight early Thursday morning. The Senate voted, 63-34, to confirm Brennan later Thursday afternoon.


Good to know some people are willing to try and do what's right. It's always good to speak up, and let the masses be aware & inform others.

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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostFri Mar 08, 2013 7:11 am

Things are going to go pear-shaped very soon across the Atlantic if things don't change direction,a there's a concerted action to change things very quick.

I'm kinda glad i'm in Britain, until I realize that they may be orchestrating a planned collapse of the pound which may lead to insecurity in the mid-to near future. And that there's an expanding Brussles based E.U federal dictatorship.
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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostFri Mar 08, 2013 1:42 pm

I'm kinda glad i'm in Britain, until I realize that they may be orchestrating a planned collapse of the pound which may lead to insecurity in the mid-to near future. And that there's an expanding Brussles based E.U federal dictatorship.


I'm pretty sure that once shit starts going down they'll try to go Nazi on us worldwide. That5's why they're holding on a bit, not going on directly until they can get their whole platform set, or at least that's the way I see it. I do believe it will be an uphill battle. We still have people with values, some in positions of power, others in positions that can endanger others. It's a weird world we live in. I think there's still hope, for everyone, I just don't know how far the ones wanting to fk things up are willing to step up the game in this decade.
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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostSat Mar 09, 2013 8:30 am

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Re: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil

PostSat Mar 09, 2013 6:42 pm

Lol,

Brother don't worry, that's the elite just trolling. I don't know if you've seen my posts, but I usually refer to the elite or the entities they worship as: Eric Cartman. Kinda goes extremely well with their senselessly evil immature attitude.
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