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Karlysymon wrote:Ofcourse iam incapable of explaining the mechanics of such appearances but given what the Bible speaks about the state of the dead, any apparitions of dead people are demons, whether Marian or otherwise. And God, time and again warns us about consulting the dead. Here are some verses:
I hope Im not coming off harsh to you Karly. I wasnt testing you or seeing if you could explain something to my liking, but just genuinely asking for your view on it. Im just trying to take an extra step to keep things cordial because some told me that my views rub people the wrong way. I dont really care to be honest because beliefs are like a*holes you know? But I still like discussing things, especially when done amicably so I want to take the extra step to show those Im discussing with that even though we may agree or disagree, we can do so in peace. Anyways I personally do not believe it to be a demon because of what the ghost said:
16 Samuel said:
If the Lord has turned away from you and is now your enemy, don’t ask me what to do. 17 I’ve already told you: The Lord has sworn to take the kingdom from you and give it to David. And that’s just what he’s doing! 18 When the Lord was angry with the Amalekites, he told you to destroy them, but you didn’t do it. That’s why the Lord is doing this to you. 19 Tomorrow the Lord will let the Philistines defeat Israel’s army, then you and your sons will join me down here in the world of the dead.
I dont think a demon would come and tell Saul the truth, and reiterate what a prophet said to Saul whilst saying it in first person. But the option that it was a demon, cannot be closed even with this. Especially with those verses you posted being in the bible.
I already believe you and understood your perspective. You do not have to convince anyone. It was a great thing to bring it up and explore this angle of hell. Would have loved to have witnessed it though.... Like that study i brought up in my last post, all NDEs are pretty much similar....lots of light, heaven, hell etc and people get spiritual when they 'return'.
Imo theres a type of spirituality where its like: "Man I (almost)died! I need to get my life straight!" and theres the type of spirituality like Elijah who stopped rain, or "Jesus" who healed the sick. Lets just say, from what I seen, he was somewhere in the middle and not just a person who saw there life flash before their eyes and decided to turn their life around. It was like a completely different person who knew how to walk through life spiritually.
Instead of me continuing to go on about things that are anecdotal though, let me take it another route (if you want to continue to discuss this topic, if not just disregard. I wont mind). Me and you both believe God is control of all things right? So to you, what does it mean that He puts people who died or were near death through these things? Is there a lesson He is trying to teach? Or do you believe that its the work of demons? Honestly just looking for you take on it...