
Karlysymon wrote:Creeper wrote:
What exactly are you
advocating here? Sounds like that "war is peace"
doublespeak, or that you are
condoning immoral behaviour because that's just life. It's a slippery slope my friend...
Regardless of people's stance on evolution, it's the creature that can adapt that will survive, not the "survival of the fittest (richest)".
There have been and will always be entities that decide whether you are fit to adapt or not.
Indeed, I am all too familiar with those who call themselves "authorities", I don't trust anyone who wears a suit or uniform.
The best example is the Spartans and their infanticidal policy. I guess many of those hurled over the cliff would have gone on to become bright minds except they weren't afforded the opportunity. Was that evil a necessity?
I'm sure a lot of Spartans thought so, although the women were likely not very happy about it. Even if they weren't killed, Spartan babies had to be able to hold their liquor straight out of the womb. It was a very violent society, with a bit of homosexuality (like in all ancient Greek societies) lots of gods and lots and lots of slaves (murdering one was how you "became a man").
I don't really agree with the Spartan way of life, they were unnecessarily savage and brutal in my opinion, but who am I to judge them? It is ancient history anyway, I'm glad I won't ever meet one. You can certainly learn a lot from history, there were some more articulate Greeks who I enjoyed reading about. The authorities there killed their teacher Socrates, and even those philosophers didn't have all the answers.
We could probably go through all kinds of different examples, but that probably isn't necessary.Gnostic Bishop wrote:Note that they do not
include having to do the
immoral thing and use the
caveat of Jesus as a
scapegoat.
Christians tend to just look for their get out of hell free
card and ignore that having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs they have done, ---so that they might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. Sure, Christians try to justify their using a
scapegoat but cannot
argue their position well at all.
If Jesus is a get out of hell free card, why are some professed Christians going to perish? If we could achieve 'pure repentance' on our own, Christ need not have come to die on the cross. The fact that He came proves that mankind was in desperate need of spiritual assistance. Furthermore, it also proves that only He had the capacity to provide that assistance and no one else.
I don't really want to get into this religious debate again. I will just say that I think it is more important to focus on how he lived and what he said rather than how he 'died' (pbuh). May God guide and protect us all.
A fool thinks himself to be wise,
a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
Everything is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
Everything is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.