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Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argentina

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Re: Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argent

PostSun Nov 16, 2014 12:45 pm

What I do believe are the deaths of Joseph Goebbels and his wife Magda outside of the bunker and the murders of their six children in the bunker. There were National Socialists in the bunker who did not want the children to be murdered according to what I have read as well as Albert Speer who offered to have the children smuggled out of Germany.

I have a book about the life of Magda Goebbels as well as reading other material about her and Joseph and do believe that she and her husband decided to end the lives of their children, the oldest daughter suspected what was coming and did not want to die as I am sure none of them would have wanted to be had they had any choice.

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What a horrible thing to do to these children. :sad:

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Joseph and Magda Goebbels dead bodies

I am as yet not convinced that this is Adolph Hitler with bullet hole in the forehead, said to be Gustav Wheeler, a body double.

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Adolph Hitler was known to have at least one body double and has been alleged to have employed as many as six.

The many faces of Adolph Hitler.

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Hitler as a young man

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Hitler sitting on the right WW1

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^^Are they even the same person?

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It is documented that Goebbels engaged six body doubles for the Fuhrer.

Voice and movement instructions were given to the doppelgangers. They were trained to mimic Hitler's soft conversational voice and distinctive walk.

Plastic surgery was undertaken and their faces and dental work were altered. German efficiency even went as far as breaking their spines in the same place where Hitler had been injured in the First World War.

Nothing was left to chance.

But the one thing that none of these doppelgangers could ever hope to duplicate, was Hitler's hypnotic, charismatic public speaking style. His ability to sway a crowd had never been matched or equalled. The doubles would be good for public appearances, parties, or maybe meetings or briefings where Hitler was not expected to have that much interaction with his underlings

Did Hitler have plastic surgery to change his look?

Journalists broke the story when they noticed a strange change in Adolf Hitler's physical appearance, especially his nose. The SS quickly released a statement stating that Hitler had his fat nose streamlined by a plastic surgeon. That did not, however, explain why the originally thin, straight nose of Corporal Hitler gave way to the large, exaggerated nostrils of the Fuhrer.

http://www.thefourthreich.co.uk/hitlerssuicide.htm

Why the mystery about Adolph?

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The Soviets weren’t helpful on the matter of the German leader’s death.

“The Soviets continued to be difficult. They refused to allow Westerners into Berlin even after the surrender of Dönitz’s government and the last armies in the field on May 7-9. On May 10, they announced the existence of the burned bodies in the Chancellory courtyard, but only allowed that one might be Hitler. The same report went on to say that his body might never be found.

“On June 6, a spokesman for the Soviet army in Berlin announced unequivocally that Hitler had committed suicide and that his body had been identified. Three days later, Marshall Zhukov, the head of the Soviet army gave a press conference with Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Vishinski looking over his shoulder. ‘We did not identify the body of Hitler,’ he said. ‘I can say nothing definite about his fate. He could have flown away from Berlin at the very last moment.’”

In an interview on Deadline – Live, an Argentine news program, journalist Santiago Romero interviewed Abel Basti about Hitler’s escape, life in Patagonia, and the events that followed World War Two.
Interview with Basti:

Romero: What is your opinion on Hitler’s escape?

Basti: “Hitler escaped via air from Austria to Barcelona. The last stage of his escape was in a submarine, from Vigo, heading straight to the coast of Patagonia. Finally, Hitler and Eva Braun, in a car with a chauffeur and bodyguard—a motorcade of at least three cars—drove to Bariloche (Argentina).

“He took refuge in a place called San Ramon, about 15 miles east of that town. It is a property of about 250,000 acres with a lake-front view of Lake Nahuel Huapi, which had been German property since the early twentieth century, when it belonged to a German firm by the name of Schamburg-Lippe.”

Romero: “On what basis do you claim that Hitler was in Spain after leaving his Berlin bunker?”

Basti: “I was able to confirm the presence of Hitler in Spain thanks to a—now elderly—Jesuit priest, whose family members were friends of the National Socialist leader. And I have witnesses that allude to meetings he had with his entourageat the place where they stayed in Cantabria.

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From same source:

Photographs of the jaw went on display Wednesday. But the jaw itself, with the dental work that originally allowed the Soviets to identify Hitler's body, is still in secret archives.

Soviet troops seized the remains when they captured the bunker. But what happened later has been shrouded in mystery and speculation.

Secret communications between Soviet counterintelligence units in Germany and the government in Moscow tell of repeated burials and exhumations of the remains, and of their final destruction by fire in 1970.

According to the documents, which also went on display Wednesday, the remains had been kept by the counterintelligence unit of the Soviet 3rd Army, part of an intelligence organization called SMERSH -- a Russian acronym for "Death to Spies." The soldiers buried and dug up the remains at least three times in 1945-46 as the army moved around Germany.

They were finally interred on SMERSH-controlled grounds in Magdeburg, a town about 70 miles west of Berlin -- until the Soviet government in 1970 ordered the remains be dug up and burned, the documents say.

The Magdeburg base was about to be transferred to East German authorities, and the Soviets feared "possible construction or excavation work on this territory that might lead to the discovery of the remains," according to a report by KGB boss Yuri Andropov.

Hitler's jaw, however, had been removed and brought to Moscow in 1945, to be included as evidence in an investigation into Hitler's death, said Sergei Mironenko, head of Russia's State Archive.

The skull fragment was found separately in 1946, when the Soviet secret police opened a second investigation, prompted by rumors that Hitler had survived. They again dug up the hole outside Hitler's bunker, Mironenko said. The fragment they found was sent to Moscow.

Russia announced it had the skull fragment in 1993, and some Western experts argued it was not Hitler's. But Mironenko insisted his service had "no doubts that it is authentic."

"It is not just some bone we found in the street, but a fragment of a skull that was found in a hole where Hitler's body had been buried," Mironenko said in an interview.

Still, the archives service has asked Russia's Forensic Medicine Institute -- a top agency for genetic testing -- to help in positively identifying the skull fragment, Mironenko conceded.

So far, there seems to be no conclusive evidence.

"I have not seen any documents providing evidence that this is the skull of Hitler," said Alexander Kalganov, an official at the FSB's archives department.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/docs/death/HitlerSkull.html



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Re: Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argent

PostThu Dec 18, 2014 4:13 am

I've always believe that Hilter's sucide story was total BS. And it feels good to know that there are plenty of conspiracy researchers out there (including Martin Timothy) that knows the real story.

It's a known fact that some Nazi war criminals were living in Argentina in later years. And I'm convince that Hilter was one of them.
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Re: Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argent

PostMon May 04, 2015 5:58 am

Yup, It is a possibility that he died a natural death many years after the war.
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Re: Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argent

PostFri May 29, 2015 2:50 am

Wouldn't entirely surprise me, considering how long osama (if we take face value story) was hiding for almost a decade as the worlds most wanted man in an age of instance communication. Wouldn't take much to hide someone in the 40s *shrugs*. Though running away seems out of character, he was a man who volunteered to take on the most dangerous jobs in trench warfare, committing suicide would be more in his character.
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Re: Hitler Deserted the Reich in 1945 and Lit Out For Argent

PostMon Dec 26, 2016 7:14 am

sarah wrote:A question. If the elites of the Nazi SS were predominantly Jewish and the communist/Bolshevik Revolution was ruled predominantly by Jews (as it was) why would they have gone to war with each other.


In the long run they are not fighting each other. They are burning the German and Russian entities out to normalize for Britain's dominance in finance to become 90% of the battle won. Then Anglo-Zion-England can finance everyone against each other, and use the US as a counter balance while they drained it fully since 1945 to continue the pro-Anglo normalization for this next world war, while they beefed up Global NATO (for 20 years in mega expansion) now 4 times more war potential than Russia and China combined.

So, wealth control to aid:

1. Real military expansion in the globalist NATO sector and black areas of weapons development,

2. and national government mega-debt,

...ensure they can transition themselves and "Zion" as the brain center and "prophetic" "Israel" "crown" of world government when this final cycle caps it all off in the US-EU system [national-system] downfall to be safety netted by world government with a quadrillion to spare in hard gold wealth (and the other stuff), by that time.

Then they sell 666 world government by huge global hope and recovery, and just used the fake doomsday by a real final mega world war ("miraculously" turned "world peace") as the global disaster averted by the world government super heroes.

It was ALL engineered to sell the 666 World Government con.
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