World War 3

WWIII won't be to do with oil. I believe the $US will cease to be the world reserve currency at some time in the future. That's inevitable. Many nations are trading commodities in their own bilateral currencies, avoiding the US$ altogether.

The US$ became global reserve currency in these times.



"New World Order" Promised to US and World Jews by Members of British Government in 1940

British politicians others than Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain have offered statements reflecting the influence of organized Jewry on the United States and elements in the British government before and during World War II. One such figure was Arthur Greenwood, an influential and high-ranking figure in Churchill's government. Addressing the Jews of the United States, he vowed that Britain would consume her treasures and energies in order to produce a world conducive to the interests of world Jewry.

Remember, world Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933 and that was the catalyst for the millions of European Jews to flee their homelands. Our history books tell us these people fled for their lives, which is rubbish. They fled because Jewry declared war on Germany.



LC, can I ask you what you think both World Wars were about geopolitically and who did what to whom?

2020 huh? that's when I expect the Dinar and Dirham to come back, the gold and silver standard... I wonder what that will do to the Phoenix currency? devalue it BIGTIME probably - I mean, what currency can compete with gold and silver coinage?

Scimi

WWIII won't be to do with oil. I believe the $US will cease to be the world reserve currency at some time in the future. That's inevitable. Many nations are trading commodities in their own bilateral currencies, avoiding the US$ altogether.

The US$ became global reserve currency in these times.



"New World Order" Promised to US and World Jews by Members of British Government in 1940

British politicians others than Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain have offered statements reflecting the influence of organized Jewry on the United States and elements in the British government before and during World War II. One such figure was Arthur Greenwood, an influential and high-ranking figure in Churchill's government. Addressing the Jews of the United States, he vowed that Britain would consume her treasures and energies in order to produce a world conducive to the interests of world Jewry.

Remember, world Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933 and that was the catalyst for the millions of European Jews to flee their homelands. Our history books tell us these people fled for their lives, which is rubbish. They fled because Jewry declared war on Germany.



LC, can I ask you what you think both World Wars were about geopolitically and who did what to whom?

The petro-dollar is the same thing as oil in essence.

It's a good question. It would be really long to answer.

If I may reverse it to you, what is the link you trace between the two to consider them a continuity. Continuity meaning that the second one was predicted even as the first one was happening.

Economically, install the central banking and implement a socialism sliding toward corporate-communism (oligarchy). Techniccaly enslaving the Nation-state and it's citizens through debt. And that enslavement came through control of ressources, mainly with cartels like the standard oil (7 sisters):

As of 2010, the surviving companies from the Seven Sisters are BP, Chevron, ExxonMobil and Royal Dutch Shell, which form four members of the "supermajors" group.

I do think that WW1 and WW2 were the first manifestation of too big to fail, not in todays term, but in the grand scheme of things. JP Morgan almost lost his empire in mining before WW1.

On a human level, rip the soul out of Europe and nation states while promoting socialism, more debt and more state dependance. Moses Hess and his sponsors...

It's only a very limited answer as I could expand for hours. But thanks for making me think about that.

2020 huh? that's when I expect the Dinar and Dirham to come back, the gold and silver standard... I wonder what that will do to the Phoenix currency? devalue it BIGTIME probably - I mean, what currency can compete with gold and silver coinage?

Scimi

What you are reffering too are trading fundamentals. But trading fundamentals don't mean anything since 2008.

Even huge banks manipulating gold and silver and making billions on it are only fined a couple millions. So they will hammer it to death.

I don't think that the elite like very much a gold and silver backed currency because even the Chinese would be really hurt if they triggered massive inflation due to suppression of the money.

I really don't know what's going to happen because:

1 - A lot of people are pushing for gold backed.
2 - The Chinese don't want to be a reserve currecny because they can barely handle themselves and it would be real bad for export.
3 - The Chinese are holding more gold everyday.

I think the Chinese will sponsor a multi value backed currecncy but that they are too tight with British and USA to do it without them

Remember, Russians and Chinese rich people store their money in the old UK tax heavens and are buying mASSSSIVE real estate in the UK and the US. They don't want the castle of card to fall on their head.

gold and silver currency WILL come back... it's just a matter of when, ofcourse I am speaking from an Islamic perspective here. In Islamic prophecy, the Dirham and Dinar are said to disappear for a time, then return at the end of time... not sure if that is a warranted piece of info for this thread but you should know that Muslims (1.7billion population - 1/5th of world populus) are expecting it to make a return - based off prophecy only... and they need it to return due to the petro-dollar corruption we are experiencing in the world today...

Scimi

gold and silver currency WILL come back... it's just a matter of when, ofcourse I am speaking from an Islamic perspective here. In Islamic prophecy, the Dirham and Dinar are said to disappear for a time, then return at the end of time... not sure if that is a warranted piece of info for this thread but you should know that Muslims (1.7billion population - 1/5th of world populus) are expecting it to make a return - based off prophecy only... and they need it to return due to the petro-dollar corruption we are experiencing in the world today...

Scimi

Yeah well that may be true.

But it won't do us good if it's the end of times no?

The thing is, Muslims are going to get fucked over like all the western world if it happens again because India and China will be holding most of the 'official' gold and silver by 2020.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-0 ... 500-tonnes

India is even limiting his population because they don't want their money to collapse before it's time (2020).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-1 ... l-controls

Also, when the collapse happen, this will happen everywhere too so stocking up on gold is useless:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

This is why when you buy gold and silver you have to provide a social security number since 4-5 years back.

As I said, switching to a gold currency would be disastrous because it would fuck over every poor people on the planet because of massive deflation because the supply of gold is way too small to back all the money in the world.

With that in mind, yeah gold currency is a possibility.

Lecon, it's interesting that you say by 2020 because that's when Henry Kissinger predicts that Israel will cease to exist.

LeCon, totally correct. However, Muslims have trump cards... Malaysia, and Indonesia - also gold hoarders. Malaysia is pushing for gold and silver currency actively within its own country. If it fruits, it will become the most powerful currency in the world.

More world governments are "just saying no" to the ponzi. Last week, the Malaysian government of Kelantan "said it was introducing a new monetary system featuring standardised
gold and silver coins based on the traditional dinar and dirham coins
once used by the Ottoman Empire." And as everyone who has taken game theory 101 knows, the first defector wins the most, while the last one is left with nothing. A small province in Malaysia just made the critical first defection. The question now is who will be next... and next...and next.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/malays ... -100-years - that's from archive - the orginal was written in Aug 2010

As Muslims, we don't only expect it - we're trying to make it happen because God ordained gold and silver currency and bartering as validated trade methods.

Scimi

You know what's really uncanny?

It seems that the worlds nations are looking for solutions and are finding them in shariah based principles, whilst shouting "NO SHARIAH LAW - NO SHARIAH LAW"

it would help if people actually studied real shariah law - the law of preventative measures, and not curative ones... meaning, a system which protects instead of letting one come to harm and then dealing with the aftermath of it.

Scimi

EDIT: I believe in the New World Order - based on shariah principles. I also believe the world is headed that way, plagiarising Islamic law as western concocted ideas in the modern age - we will be living in shariah based law systems without having the shariah branding over it. People are sick and tired of interest rates and inflation. These things make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. When the gold and silver currency gets adopted, the gap between rich and poor will freeze for a time, until the arrivals of the prophetic characters bring things back to the way of God - after killing the antichrist - the man who will use Godly law to define his own immoral nature - a bastardisation, perversion of God's law on earth.

Once he is removed - we enjoy world peace for a time, until gog and magog destroy mankind in their final wave.

yeah, I sound like a loon right now, but wait... just wait. Anyone who sees the matrix, sounds like a loon - i know I am not one. Just perceived as one.

Scimi