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No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

PostTue Oct 14, 2014 10:43 pm

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Despite the bomber flights shopped onto this pic, US anti aircraft gunners on Diamond Head said there were no enemy aircraft at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 - Source: MovieTone News, in a clip that appeared to have been filmed on location the same day, that was included in the first cut of 911 hit piece Loose Change!


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Despite the smoke and the sunken ships, sailors shootin' the breeze and others just getting on with their business, says they were in no way concerned a hostile attack by a foreign power had taken place!


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Wheeler Army Air Field, December 7, 1941, smoke coming from planes on a row of undamaged aircraft, upwind of a conflagration of other burning planes, and no blast damage or bomb craters anywhere, says the aircraft were deliberately set alight at ground level.


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No one appears to be at action stations, despite the undamaged battleship should be an obvious target for enemy bombers, while spectators wandering around, fails to assert a force of some hundreds of enemy planes is at large!


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No one appears to be too concerned, spectators are cramming every vantage point on an as yet undamaged vessel, surely if an attack were underway it would be the last place to be!


http://www.sflistteamhouse.com/Misc/Pea ... iginal.htm

Officially, beginning at 06:00 hours the first wave of 183 fighters and torpedo bombers, struck at the fleet in Pearl Harbor, and the airfields in Hickam, Kaneohe and Ewa.

The second strike launched at 07:15 hours, consisted of 167 aircraft which struck at the same targets, at 07:53 hours the next wave consisting of 40 Nakajima B5N2 Kate" torpedo bombers, 51 Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers, 50 high Altitude bombers, and 43 Zeros, struck at airfields and at Pearl Harbor.

US Casualties:

USA : 218 KIA, 364 WIA.

USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.

USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.

Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.

TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.

Battleships

USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine.

USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and sunk in the harbor.

USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.

USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.

USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired.

USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.

USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage.

USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.

USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk.

Cruisers

USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage..

USS San Francisco (CA-38) - Light Damage.

USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.

USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.

USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.

USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage..

Destroyers

USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.

USS Cassin - (DD-372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.

USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.

USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage.

Minelayer

USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.

Seaplane Tender

USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.

Repair Ship

USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.

Harbor Tug

USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.

Aircraft

188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S Army Air Corps.)
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Re: No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

PostWed Oct 15, 2014 2:49 pm

......................................................................... lol, didn't thought I would ever see this. You do know the Japanese acknowledge they attacked Pearl Harbor right? They also tried advancing further in the pacitic, and had ilegally attacked most if not all of their neighboring nations. Do you know why the Pearl Harbor attack happenned or did you just happen to stumble across some conspiracy website saying it never happenned?

These threads are just hilarious.
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Re: No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

PostWed Oct 15, 2014 4:22 pm

Didn't the American's break the Japanese code and knew the attack in Pearl Harbour was coming and let it happen anyways as an excuse to do what they were wanting to do???
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Re: No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

PostWed Oct 15, 2014 5:06 pm

Not necesarily, some thought they were coming, the code was not broken for the PH event rather for another attack after that one. It was broken when the Japanese came in for a second attack to our shores, or should I say some Islands to the West, I forgot their names. As for the P.H. incident, it is believed some generals were warned and they dismissed the warning. I dont think there was ill intent if we take into consideration the possible loss of the whole West of the United States if we were not lucky to later decipher the code or to beat their incoming attacks with the newly created fleets considering we lost our strongest assets.

It would have been a strategic suicide. Nonetheless, the op stems from the premise that Pearl Harbor never happenned based on aome funky pictures. Which is even more absurd.
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Re: No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941

PostSun Nov 16, 2014 6:04 am

I do feel some historical facts of the USA have been altered over the years. However to suggest no Japanese airplanes at PH would surprise even me. Remember, a few POW camps were on the mainland to house the Japanese people living in the mainland that lived here. They lost homes, businesses, loved pets, everything. Add to that two rather large bombs ariving in Japan a few years later.

While I do agree, folks in DC knew more about this attack than has mainstream history books, I think while some of the leadership stood down (in the Congressional record) to allow more funding and a chance to enter the war. I do think we have a military attack on Pearl by a foreign country. I would chase about fifty legit conspiracy theories before I would follow this one.

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