Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:42 pm
Creeper wrote:Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Are ad-hominem insults the only way you know how to debate?
That's pretty weak dude...
I did not advocate doing anything immoral.
In the OP you said.
"If sin and doing evil is good and necessary for Adam, who represents all of mankind, then the church and I are suggesting that it is good that we all do evil."
Ignoring for a moment that I simply don't see the necessity for (excessive) evil and sin. Perhaps I should ask you what you think the difference is between 'evil' and 'immorality'?
You still haven't defined those "acts that must be done" or said where the line is drawn....
You agree that we must do evil to survive and thrive.
To a degree, but there are limits, as I clearly said.
If you need some examples. Life consumes life, animals eat other animals or plants, plants take nutrients from the soil which mainly got in the soil due to things dying, that is a necessary evil in this world. Those Jewish banking cartels and secret societies are certainly thriving at the expense of everything else in the world. Are you saying we should be more like those assholes?
Can you see the difference that I am pointing out? Between being balanced and respectful or being excessive and selfish/arrogant. There is a massive difference the way I see it which is why I keep asking you to clarify your position.
The rest of your post is just speculative faith based nonsense, as you would say
Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:15 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote:Fantasy and fantasy characters is all you have. That is all all idol worshipers have.
Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:32 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote:As long as you have agreed that we have to do evil, my mission is over.
You might love the one you are hurting but are hurting him nevertheless.
Are you deliberately ignoring the things that I have said about repentance and how we should be careful not to cross certain lines?
Lines which you refuse to define...
I guess the church was right and Adam's sin is a happy fault and necessary for us to do.
Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:14 pm
Creeper wrote:Gnostic Bishop wrote:As long as you have agreed that we have to do evil, my mission is over.